Tuesday, September 21, 2010

IS FORMER INDIAN LAND STILL INDIAN LAND

Some think not, some think yes, some don’t care. A real life Indian Village located in Lone Star Lakes could be a unique genuine tourist draw and would not require even one full time employee. As it is today the traffic count would not excite anyone; perhaps dedicated fishermen, deer hunters, model airplane flyers, and those curious enough to drive through it. It would not cause traffic problems; we do survive the Pow Wow and there could easily be a second entrance on Kings Highway, the one where there used to be a bridge.  Our mixed race City Council is finally ready to do something, after many years, and the Indian Council led by Chief Bass, is eager the build teepees. What is your attitude, not that Council cares what you think. If they did the village would have been completed years ago. So it is with progress

14 comments:

Just Words said...

Wow, just before a local election our brave mixed race city council wants to help the Nansemonds. How nice. Just after the election the same council will turn their backs on their dream until the next election in 2012. It goes on and on counting on the Nansemonds remaining silent.

Behind the scenes there is great concern and resistance from the land owners who's property will be impacted by the proposed village. They have been steathfully moved several members of council to oppose the plan.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the city should give property to anyone or any group but if the Nansemond Indian Tribe wants part of the Lone Star Lakes property they should be given the chance to buy it for the fair market value.

Anonymous said...

Yea, I guess they better get something for it. With all the pending lawsuits aganist the city they are going to need a cash injection to off set the legal fees and court costs not including any judgements. Firemen suing teacher suing private family suing and the saga of David email Sylvia is on the horizon. These are the ones that we do know about.

nativepride said...

Ok, so here is the deal, i guess some people just dont get it. Everyone thinks the city should "get something for the land". Are you folks blind???? The city is getting something more valuable than any amount of money. What do u know about the city of suffolk? What do u really know? Maybe that it used to be called Nansemond county. And why is that? And what do your children know about the history of the city they live in? or the state they live in? and i dont mean political history, i mean REAL HISTORY. And the last time i checked suffolks biggest tourist attraction...... sorry i dont think there is such a thing. And who got paid for the land, who paid for it, how much was paid, and how did the city come to "OWN" it???? And its sad but true, MOST PEOPLE DONT CARE.

Toasted Cracker said...

Government would say they freed you "Noble Savages" from your own ignorance. They will say they gave your people billions over the decades in Federal and State assistance and you squandered it away. Never underestimate the arrogance of government. All Americans no matter where they come from or who they are, are just caretakers of the land. In the end government will take it away from you one way or another either by punitive taxes or by arbitrarily declaring imminent domain. Trust your government? Go ask an Indian.

Anonymous said...

Ten years of planning by the Indian leaders and serious groups wanting to help indicate to me they know what they are doing. These folks that insist the land be sold to the Indians have no vision that allows them to see the potential return for Suffolk via tourist dollars. The acreage is not being utilized by anyone therefore worth nothing now or ever. The proposed Village, a unique idea, on its own could recover amounts we have wasted over the years attempting to bring in tourists. The annnual Pow Wow draws more visitors in two days than the rest of Suffolk in five years. Naysayers to this project are just naysayers. I think this project would unite the various Tribes and they would work together to achieve success.The Indian Villager would bring in tourists, that's the whole idea.

rpock said...

I had an opportunity to visit with Chief Bass today and he is delighted for another chance to win the hearts and minds of supporters. They have tried for a long time to convince Council there is everything to gain and nothing to lose we can 't afford. Suffolk is planning to spend in excess of a million to restore the courthouse for use of our Tourism department.If that is wise then it is also wise to provide something more exciting than the Dismal Swamp for tourists to visit.

Anonymous said...

In what way would residents in the area of the proposed Indian Village be negatively impacted. They must envision hordes of cars and visitors like those coming to see the Field of Dreams baseball team. I'm sure the tom toms would be silenced at dusk. Or is there fear of an Indian uprising, their homes sacked. Like those residents that don't want Kings Highway bridge for fear of traffic.

Anonymous said...

The Council has called for a 6:30 pm open Public Hearing in Council chambers November 17. This could be the meeting that finally gives the Nansemond Indians the opportunity to construct Mattanock Town in Lone Star Lakes Park. We need all those folks supporting the plan to be there in person or call their Council member and voice support. This is the last chance the Indians will get to recover some of their home territory. Please be there.

Anonymous said...

Talk about perseverance, the feasibility study was done in 2002. The village will serve as a center for education of early Virginia history. It will contain a Native American Museum and an Indian Village with log houses and gardens. This will be a great place to bring school classes to actually see how earliest American history. Mattanock an Jamestown combined will be a real tourist draw.

Anonymous said...

Somewhere in this sudden renewed interest a deal is being constructed for Brown and Bennett. Is it the Phoenix Bank African-American Museum and Chinese Restaurant on East Washington Street or something else? Where and how much it will cost us will never be made public, that you can bank on.

If council is so freely doling out the public dollars for the Black and Red Man, how about the rest of us? Where is our place at the table, or do we not count?

Anonymous said...

Linda could ask Chief Bass to take the city's Market Street property in exchange for the development rights in Lone Star Lakes so she can build her new City Hall. Imagine Suffolk City Hall right in Chuckatuck with plenty of room to expand and build more office buildings. The only problem is that missing bridge on King's Highway.

Anonymous said...

In the very near future, the White Christian majority in the U.S.A. will succumb to the Muslims. You don't know how that might play out, ask an American Native?
This was their land, we burned, slaughtered, raped, and took what was rightfully theirs. Now, they have to beg, pay, and go through the court system to get a small piece back.

A SUPPORTER said...

JOIN US AT 6:30 11/17/10 IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHEN WE HOPE TO GET THE NECESSARY 6 VOTES TO PROCEED WITH MATTANOCK VILLAGE. IT HAS BEEN 8 YEARS SINCE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. IT APPEARS NOW THAT WE MAY RECEIVE THE GO AHEAD AND WE ARE READY TO BUILD THE FIRST LONGHOUSE. HELP US ON 11/17 TO CONVINCE COUNCIL THE CITY WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS EARLY
AMERICAN EDUCATIONAL FACILITY.

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